Hi,

our intent on edk2-discuss seems to have been to *avoid* moderating
messages. The list description used to include the sentence "Basically
unmoderated".

However, this has not been working in practice. Multiple messages have
been held recently for approval (from non-members as I gather). Worse, I
don't seem to have received *any* moderation notifications wrt.
edk2-discuss -- and so I assume others have neither?...

Thus, the config that has been in effect seems to have triggered a
corner case in groups.io. Namely, "new members not moderated", in
combination with our general "allow nonmembers to post" setting -- which
holds nonmember messages for moderation rather than rejecting them --,
appears to hold nonmember messages for moderation *without* notifying
moderators in email.

This is of course the worst possible experience for non-member posters
(their messages can be hidden indefinitely from the list!). For this
reason, I've now changed the edk2-discuss settings as follows, in order
to match the edk2-devel settings (where I *do* get mod notifications):

- remove the "Basically unmoderated" sentence from the edk2-discuss list
description --> the resultant (remaining) description is: "General
discussions around TianoCore topics. Post here if you're not sure which
list to use." <https://edk2.groups.io/g/discuss/>

- flip "new members" from "not moderated" to "moderated; unmoderate
after 1 approved message".

Please let me know if something breaks or deteriorates as a result of
the above.

Thanks
Laszlo

Hello Mayur,

On 06/24/20 17:21, mgudmeti@... wrote:

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 02:16 PM, Laszlo Ersek wrote:

Laszlo

Hi laszlo,

I have newly joined this discuss@edk2.groups.io group. I posted a comment on this thread https://edk2.groups.io/g/discuss/topic/74206642#228 couple of days back. But do not see my comment here. Can you please let me know what is the issue here.

Thanks for the heads-up.

For some reason, I still do not receive moderation notifications from
groups.io, for the edk2-discuss mailing list. I receive such
notifications for edk2-devel, and I check the pending messages there
every day. But I'm left in the dark about edk2-discuss :(

And now that I'm checking it, I'm seeing your message (I'll approve it
in a moment) -- what's more, I'm seeing 5 more stuck messages, the
oldest one dating back to Jun 17.

That's terrible :(

I'm really sorry. I don't know how we can fix this problem with
edk2-discuss.

I have now sent an email to <support@groups.io>, with subject

not receiving "Message Approval Needed" notifications for edk2-discuss

Hopefully this will improve in the near future.

Thanks
Laszlo

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 02:16 PM, Laszlo Ersek wrote:

Laszlo

Hi laszlo,

I have newly joined this discuss@edk2.groups.io group. I posted a comment on this thread https://edk2.groups.io/g/discuss/topic/74206642#228 couple of days back. But do not see my comment here. Can you please let me know what is the issue here.

Thanks,
Mayur

Thanks Laszlo for quick turnaround. I can see my comment now.

Mayur