"edk2-discuss" list settings change


Laszlo Ersek
 

Hi,

our intent on edk2-discuss seems to have been to *avoid* moderating
messages. The list description used to include the sentence "Basically
unmoderated".

However, this has not been working in practice. Multiple messages have
been held recently for approval (from non-members as I gather). Worse, I
don't seem to have received *any* moderation notifications wrt.
edk2-discuss -- and so I assume others have neither?...

Thus, the config that has been in effect seems to have triggered a
corner case in groups.io. Namely, "new members not moderated", in
combination with our general "allow nonmembers to post" setting -- which
holds nonmember messages for moderation rather than rejecting them --,
appears to hold nonmember messages for moderation *without* notifying
moderators in email.

This is of course the worst possible experience for non-member posters
(their messages can be hidden indefinitely from the list!). For this
reason, I've now changed the edk2-discuss settings as follows, in order
to match the edk2-devel settings (where I *do* get mod notifications):

- remove the "Basically unmoderated" sentence from the edk2-discuss list
description --> the resultant (remaining) description is: "General
discussions around TianoCore topics. Post here if you're not sure which
list to use." <https://edk2.groups.io/g/discuss/>

- flip "new members" from "not moderated" to "moderated; unmoderate
after 1 approved message".

Please let me know if something breaks or deteriorates as a result of
the above.

Thanks
Laszlo


Laszlo Ersek
 

Hello Mayur,

On 06/24/20 17:21, mgudmeti@nvidia.com wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 02:16 PM, Laszlo Ersek wrote:


Laszlo
Hi laszlo,

I have newly joined this discuss@edk2.groups.io group. I posted a comment on this thread https://edk2.groups.io/g/discuss/topic/74206642#228 couple of days back. But do not see my comment here. Can you please let me know what is the issue here.
Thanks for the heads-up.

For some reason, I still do not receive moderation notifications from
groups.io, for the edk2-discuss mailing list. I receive such
notifications for edk2-devel, and I check the pending messages there
every day. But I'm left in the dark about edk2-discuss :(

And now that I'm checking it, I'm seeing your message (I'll approve it
in a moment) -- what's more, I'm seeing 5 more stuck messages, the
oldest one dating back to Jun 17.

That's terrible :(

I'm really sorry. I don't know how we can fix this problem with
edk2-discuss.

I have now sent an email to <support@groups.io>, with subject

not receiving "Message Approval Needed" notifications for edk2-discuss

Hopefully this will improve in the near future.

Thanks
Laszlo


Mayur Gudmeti
 

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 02:16 PM, Laszlo Ersek wrote:


Laszlo
Hi laszlo,

I have newly joined this discuss@edk2.groups.io group. I posted a comment on this thread https://edk2.groups.io/g/discuss/topic/74206642#228 couple of days back. But do not see my comment here. Can you please let me know what is the issue here.

Thanks,
Mayur


Mayur Gudmeti
 

Thanks Laszlo for quick turnaround. I can see my comment now.

Mayur

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Hello Mayur,

On 06/24/20 17:21, mgudmeti@nvidia.com wrote:
On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 02:16 PM, Laszlo Ersek wrote:


Laszlo
Hi laszlo,

I have newly joined this discuss@edk2.groups.io group. I posted a comment on this thread https://edk2.groups.io/g/discuss/topic/74206642#228 couple of days back. But do not see my comment here. Can you please let me know what is the issue here.
Thanks for the heads-up.

For some reason, I still do not receive moderation notifications from groups.io, for the edk2-discuss mailing list. I receive such notifications for edk2-devel, and I check the pending messages there every day. But I'm left in the dark about edk2-discuss :(

And now that I'm checking it, I'm seeing your message (I'll approve it in a moment) -- what's more, I'm seeing 5 more stuck messages, the oldest one dating back to Jun 17.

That's terrible :(

I'm really sorry. I don't know how we can fix this problem with edk2-discuss.

I have now sent an email to <support@groups.io>, with subject

not receiving "Message Approval Needed" notifications for edk2-discuss

Hopefully this will improve in the near future.

Thanks
Laszlo